Vatey and Roith

Work placements

Vatey and Roith have interviews for jobs in research with General Electric tomorrow. Fingers crossed for them. We're doing preparation tonight.

Chou starts at Cambodia Cares tomorrow for her 3 month work placement.

Some of Sodalin's pharmacy exams have been postponed while there is uncertainty about the political situation.  There are still road blocks and talk of protests. Other than that it's still pretty quiet in the dormitory.  

Recycling

I have implemented a new recycling scheme at the dormitory.  There are now four large blue rice sacks on each floor next to the bin.  All the girls now recycle plastic, cans and paper.  

I'm not normally that into recycling but it does have several advantages here.  Not only is it good for the environment but it costs less in refuse collection (there is no countrywide rubbish collection system - you have to pay for trucks to come and take it away).  In addition, those in the dorm that don't have much financial support can take the filled rice sacks to the local HI (which means recycling not a reference to HIV as I first thought!?).

Books

The books have also arrived (some via Hong Kong and others via Singapore). I've spent this morning wrapping each one in ribbon with a personal note.  Thank you to everyone who contributed.  It makes an enormous difference.  Most of the girls don't have any books and those that they do have are copies of books not the original (which often means it is of very poor quality).


Running


Is it weird that Silent Dude hasn't re-appeared at our unofficial morning running club since giving him his new trainers? Options I can think of are: 

(1) the trainers helped so much he is now on a Forest Gump type mission across Cambodia; (2) he got mugged on the way home; or 
(3) I need to start wearing my glasses to running....

Here's a picture of his trainers (in case you spot him).


Community Projects

Are flooding in.  Winner and details of the various bids to be announced in the next week.

Cambodia Daily

Tonight we are talking about the calls for an independent investigation into voting irregularities in the elections. 

Some sources say that voter names appeared twice, that people were turning up to vote only to find that someone had already voted under their name and that some people were mistakenly taken off the voter list. 

It's also party night tonight...there will be cake.  Whoop!  This is a picture of Chou, Sampours, Koeurn and Thiery making jelly for the last party.

Khmer Boxing

The national election happened on Sunday and Hun Sen's ruling CPP party has remained in power.  There are widespread protests due to take place tomorrow. Think of us...

There is a lot of information on The Cambodia Daily newspaper website if you want to know more:

The Cambodia Daily

The dorm was pretty quiet.  The vast majority of the girls went home for the weekend to vote (the dormitory shut and there was limited security available).  Some were observers at voting stations.

They have a black finger from the indelible ink, the evidence that they have voted.  None of them want it to wash off.  For most, this is the first time they have been able to (try to) exercise the right to say who runs the country.  

I took the opportunity to visit Hong Kong to see my sister and her husband.  It was glorious playing golf, eating afternoon tea and sunbathing at the beach, a real break but also quite difficult to get your head around. 

Mala and Sampours

I got back this morning and the girls are all raring to go again!  It's 930pm and I've just finished a session with Sampours on her pronunciation and a session with Mala on her CV and cover letter.  

Mala is applying for a voluntary work experience type position in Acleda Bank.  

She was initially looking at a cleaning role at the bank and not in the customer service team on the basis that she did not have anything to wear and was nervous that her skin was too dark.  In spite of the fact that she's studying accounting at the university of management and has been awarded the scholarship to live at Harpswell.  

With a little encouragement she's now going for a customer service role which is fantastic! She's so sweet.  We've spent some time looking at the application form and requirements in terms of CV and cover letter so we will do some more work on it this week. 

Cooking classes


I've started cooking classes with the girls on an adhoc basis.  They are going nuts for it.  

So far we've made two lots of smoked salmon blinis, spaghetti carbonara (Steve Osborne Style), pancakes (they hate lemon and sugar and much prefer golden syrup), marshmallow rice crispy squares (I know. Not really cooking. More mixing), a rocket and parmesan salad, spaghetti amatriciana and we are due to have a go at bruschetta this week.



Culture Show

The Culture Show last Sunday was great. 

This is a video of one part with the girls performing a traditional Khmer fashion show...

Activities last week included...

...a group dance class at the Olympic Stadium for $.25 each. Beats gym membership in London.

...a cinema trip. This time to see Man of Steel.  Very good if you haven't been. It's the final trip. Everyone has had the chance to go once.

...Juliet and I took a bike ride into the countryside to see what we could find. Its really cheap and easy to do. Might be a good group activity, save that we have to avoid the land mines.

...a trip to watch live Khmer Boxing at CTN Studios. It's pretty rough, but free. Mostly the guys fighting are helped out by two mates who sponge them down with water mid fight and offer support and physio.  

You're right in there and we had to move a bit further back to avoid the blood.  Salin actually knew one of the boys from her province so we even got to say hello. So cool. The guys  just hop on their moto afterwards and carry on with life as usual.  No idea how they do it.

University Tour

Last week, Koeurn and Sampours kindly offered to show me and a group of about 20 children from an NGO called CCC around the campus of The Royal University of Phnom Penh.  

The children come from families where either one or both parents suffer from drug abuse, prostitution and/or are in prison.  It was a great experience for the children, they saw the library and heard about what life is like to study. One 13 year old boy tole me he wanted to be the president one day.  I told him to go for it.

It was great for Koeurn and Sampours to build experience presenting information. The kids loved them, of course.

This is Sodalin, Rachana, Cheata, Kimleang,  Vouththou, Soriya, Roith and Reaksa enjoying the culture show. 

Rach 

Hot Like Pepper - Sokun Kanha

Culture Show

We are having a culture show on Sunday!!!  

Lots of the girls from both dorms are performing (with support from the wonderful Leadership Residents).  We even have MCs and sound girls.  

The current line up consists of a traditional Khmer story, sketch from The Wizzard of Oz, apsara dancing, Khmer songs, a fashion show, tap dancing and a Bollywood dance. 

I'm singing a Khmer song called Hot Like Pepper by Sokun Kanha.  I'm terrible!!

Rakesmay is going to do my hair like this....

It's going to be awesome. Can't wait.

Elections

Hotting up here generally ahead of the general election on 28 July 2013. 

There was a prayer gathering yesterday outside the Royal Palace for peaceful elections.  You get t-shirts for pretty much everything in Cambodia. The peaceful protest t-shirts are a tasteful shade of green.

A few of the girls are helping with the process either as independent advisors or monitors.  

Cambodia Daily

Tonight is Siekmouy's turn to lead the Cambodia Daily class. 

We are talking about a recent employment fair organised by Japan to recruit Cambodians for Japanese companies in Phnom Penh.   She is going to present her evidence and information to the group via Powerpoint (for the first time) so that's fantastic.

Fun stuff

Off to see Despicable Me 2 at Legend Cinema shortly and we have more swimming on Sunday morning (I take five at a time with priority to those who haven't been with me before - it's very popular and good for them - lots can't actually swim so it's really lovely for them to have a go).

Running with me at 6am is proving very popular.  There's the same crowd every morning:

1 a guy with a MASSIVE dog (Dog Guy)

2 a guy with learning disabilities, no speech and limited movement who wears flip flops to exercise (Silent Guy)

3 a group of ladies who always ask how old I am and then giggle (Ladies Group)

4 Cool dudes doing "training" but mostly just posturing (The Dudes)

Jon and I bought Silent Guy trainers and socks yesterday and the girls and I gave them to him this morning.  He had the widest most genuine smile you've ever seen, there were lots of thumbs up!! It's amazing how much you can communicate with only limited Khmer (me) and not being able to speak (him).

How could I forget the monkeys!!! Here they are. Adorable. No mummy I didn't touch them...honest.

Still checking Daily Mail showbiz daily for any signs of the Kate and Wills Royal birth.  When is it going to happen!!?

Leadership Update

Vechou is applying for a Chevening Scholarship to study economics in London.

Vatey is applying for an internship with General Electric in Phnom Penh.

Panha has secured a teaching job (maths and English) which she is doing in addition to her university studies.

Pang has secured a part time job with a medical equipment/pharmacy company to support her studies.

We've organised for DC Cam (documentation centre of Cambodia) to come and show the Harpswell girls its brand new film called A River Changes Course. It analyzes economic development and globalization by following the lives of Cambodians in 3 different locations.  There is a young family in Ratanakiri, a Cham Muslim family in a floating village on the Tonle Sap, and a young girl who moves from her province to Phnom Penh to find work. 

Other than that I've got CVs, scholarship applications and interview preparation sessions coming out of my ears.  They're all working really hard. Post interview downloading is proving important too.

Learning curve

Only a couple of things in the last few days...

The vast majority of the students don't have bank accounts.  Their parents literally put $30 on a moto or with a relative coming to Phnom Penh who physically hands them their monthly allowance.  Jon should set up Metro Bank here...

Girls get a 50% reduction on university fees to encourage them to study.  Thiery is one of TWO girls on her engineering course.

There is a massive amount of bribery that goes on during High School.  All over Cambodia.  Almost all the girls have had to pay teachers a bribe at some point (one girl's teacher asked the entire class to pay up in order to pass).  

I had dinner with this lovely Christian family on Saturday evening.  The parents are Sokha and Lee Nam Soon.   Mum, Jon and me are going to sponsor the children's school education for this year.  It's a christian school which they hope will be less open to bribery and focus more on education. 

Bye for now.  

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New recruits and Spring News from Thailand

Looking for New Recruits in Kampot Province

Last week I joined Varony (Senior Manager at Harpswell), Rachana and Om Malis on the final stage of a 10 day trip across the cambodian countryside to interview 136 potential new Harpswell students.

It is a difficult job. There are only 19 places. Here are some pictures of the schools the students come from.  The students have a 15 minute interview and a 15 minute written test. Varony is now shortlisting.


Highlights this week:

1 Finding Wimbledon on the Star Sports Channel in the dorm. I stayed awake all night watching Murray.

2 The Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC).  Fascinating trials of senior Khmer Rouge officials.  Added bonus is that the Defence Counsel for one of those being prosecuted looks very much like Mr Darcy in the only true adaptation of Pride and Prejudice (produced by the BBC with Colin Firth of course).  Makes me want to sit there all day!

3 Taking the girls to see Phnom Penh Crown FC play its latest fixture at the Olympic Stadium.  Great crowd, roasted corn and pretty average football but thoroughly enjoyable.







4 The girls are amazing at hair braiding. Vechou needed a volunteer so I offered of course. She was amazing!  Photo below.




5  Running with Bopha. I went again this morning. We leave by 6am while its still cool and do laps of the road leading up to a beautiful Pagoda.


Por is FAMOUS!

Following on from Por's work with BBC Media Action to build a community hall in her province, another film crew have been in touch.  This time it was Spring News from Thailand and they came to the dorm!

Por is doing an incredible job to promote her project and share news about the life of people in her village. I even got interviewed. Watch this space. Eek.

Dinna in Burma

Dinna leaves at the end of the month for an exchange programme with Burmese, Thai and Cambodian students which aims to promote joint working between the three nations.  There are currently a number of border disputes between various parts of these countries and this project aims to alleviate some of the tension. It's a 2 DAY bus ride to Burma. Flights are too expensive.

Reaksa and Soriya in Japan

Reaksa and Soriya are waiting to see if they have secured a place on another exchange programme this time to Japan.  

Dormitory Leadership Teams

Busy week here in the dormitory. This was a meeting to vote for the new team leaders for each dormitory (which includes an overall head, a head of accounting and head of discipline).  All good experience.

 Rach x

Sopanhchakpor and BBC Media Action

Highlights this week

Lychee taste amazing.  No one knows what an avocado is.

There are hot water showers at the swimming pool.

Numkong doughnuts (with melted palm sugar on top and sesame seeds) are still amazing.

Gym Bar shows Wimbledon AND the Lions Test Matches.

You can get an awesome manicure 5 minutes down the road for 5000 rial ($1.25).

UK Trade and Investment - I met with Jeffrey Lamb this week, head of UKTI to talk about ways in which he can help the students at Harpswell.

Free books - I bought some story books in Khmer and English and gave them to the little street children. Puss in Boots was the most popular!

Just for Fun

I have been trying to work out what cheap activities we can do next.  So many of them never leave the dorm simply because they don't have the money.

This weekend we went to the Plae Pakaa Theatre produced by The Cambodian Living Arts.  Friday night was the show Mak Therng (a Khmer story about a man and his wife who is stolen by the prince and his journey to win her back).  Saturday was The Passage of Life, a journey through a typical Khmer life and the way in which each life event is celebrated, from birth, coming of age, marriage and death. They loved it!

Next Saturday we are off to see Phnom Penh Crown FC play their next match at the Olympic Stadium.

Nat and Roith are looking into a Khmer Kick Boxing Match. SOOO excited.

Community Project Competition

I have asked the girls to come up with a project to win $200 and help their community (either in the provinces or Phnom Penh).  

It can relate to anything they want and four teams have so far talked to me about their proposals. They range from helping rural villagers set up businesses to grow produce, buying books and helping an orphanage.

Deadline is 31 July.

Update from the girls:

Bopha is off to Vietnam on a scholarship for one month from 10 July .  She will be continuing her study into the reasons why there is a lack of women studying mathematics at universities in Cambodia and Vietnam.

Por won $2,500 in a national competition for her project to build a youth centre in her village.  It is now build and BBC Media Action filmed it.  Link to it below and some pictures: 

Click here for information on Por's project
Vechou is doing really well with her English classes (we have two per week).  Pronunciation is progressing.  She is about to start an internship with Cambodia Cares.

Salin, Sampours, Keourn, Mala, Sereraith and Siekmouy have a class with me between 6 -7pm Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday on listening, reading and writing skills.




Sodalin in a total Jane Austen convert.  She has read Pride and Prejudice and watched "Becoming Jane".  During our weekly session we watch clips from Persuasion and translate it. She is really getting the hang of reading between the lines.

We went swimming again this week and taught Sopheap how to swim and Sohim how to improve breaststroke technique! They did really well.

Masters in Economics at UCL or other London University 

Vechou is in her third year (with one more year to go until she finishes her undergrad degree in Economics).  Her dream is to study a Masters in Economic Policy in a London university.  Does anyone know how she could get a scholarship?? 

I know how to sort out her accommodation (there is a fantastic Housing Association in the UK called Zebra Housing Association which provides low cost housing for foreign students) and I may sponsor her myself in terms of living costs...but I need to get her on a course first!

She has a mum and dad in the provinces but they are quite old and her brother died a few years ago.  

She was selected for an interview with Harpswell by the director of her high school and asked to come to his office.  She was really scared because people only go to him when they are in trouble!  She was bright enough to be selected from a large number of applicants and joined Harpswell three years ago.  She wants to be able to help Cambodian businesses operate and run effectively to promote economic growth in Cambodia.  

She is very bright but a little shy and not very confident (which I am working on... :)).  She has great aspirations for Cambodia and a year in London would transform her life.  It would be a platform for her to really change the country when she came back. I would love to be able to surprise her with an offer of a place before I go.

There are now lots more photos in the Gallery and videos on the blog. Take a look!

Bye for now.  Enjoy WImbledon.

Rach x

Swimming

Sua-sdey, sok sab baay dtee? Hello, how are you doing?

We had a great time on Saturday.  Juliet and I took 5 students from each dorm swimming. Hilarious.  Two of the girls in my group couldn't swim so we had great fun teaching them.  No one drowned thank goodness.  We all wore t-shirts and shorts for modesty which doesn't help when you are trying to swim!

Highlights last few days:

- I have found a driving range.  Picture below. Jon, Chris and Miki will be happy :)

- Pajamas as outer wear. Everyone is doing it. You heard it here first.

- They have a "2,500 rial shop". Everything is 2,500 rials (unsurprisingly). Same as the pound shop. Amazing how far a concept can spread.

- I thought it might be about time to top up my pay as you go Nokia yesterday but I had only used $1.20 over the past TWO WEEKS.  

- Being mistaken for Jennifer Lawrence on the red carpet in in Stylist Magazine. Awesome.  Hello my new BF.

- Handwashing your clothes is surprisingly therapeutic. Benefits include being able to spot which clothes have dye that runs, you are less inclined to spill food down yourself in the first place and it's not nearly as difficult as you think.  Some of the girls think it is much better than a washing machine...!

Leadership update:

Kimsreang and Sopanhchakpor won a national competition run by the BBC for funding (£2,500) for a project of their choice. They are currently filming in their province.

Satya won a national public speaking competition. The prize is a trip to London this July!

Siekmouy and Mala have been enjoying our individual listening and reading sessions.  Listening involves working out and writing down the lyrics to Taylor Swift songs :)

I helped Varony (Manager of TT dorm) interview six potential new English teachers on Saturday.  We have one vacancy at TT dorm and two at BT Dorm.  It emphasized to me how important sessions on "pre interview preparation" and "ethics in the work place" are for the girls.  Some of the candidates for the English teaching position at Harpswell had no idea what The Harpswell Foundation actually did.

Vechou is doing really well on her grammar sessions with me each week. I got stuck at one point because I didn't know why something was the correct answer, I just knew it was correct!

One of the Cambodia Daily discussion groups this week looked at the collaboration between the Thailand and Cambodia to create four new border check points (which is progress following on from the incident last year where 46 Cambodians were shot by Thai military for working in Thailand without visas).

The visit from the US Ambassador, William Todd, was very interesting. He has committed to  being involved with Harpswell and visiting the students each month.

Harpswell has just formed an alliance with the Cambodian Womens Entrepreneur Association. It currently has 150 members and will create even more opportunities for the girl to find placements and permanent jobs on leaving Harpswell.

I am taking 8 students to the Graduate Women of Cambodia event on Tuesday morning.  It is an opportunity to network with other graduates and businesses and have the opportunity to attend interesting lectures and workshops. It is an affiliate of the International Federation of University Women. http://www.ifuw.org/

Video

If you only watch one video this week, watch this one.

New Video: The Harpswell Story

http://www.harpswellfoundation.org/center/index.html
  

Bopha (whose aunty very kindly made my nails look amazing) is the niece of Vesna who is the inspiration for The Harpswell Foundation.

We are still taking donations via the Donate Page on the blog if you would like to help them at all and haven't already done so.  

Ciao for now.

Tomb Raiders

We're just back from the Harpswell annual weekend away to Siam Riep.  

All 80 girls on two buses, with 5 staff (which includes me somehow), 7 hours each way (with numerous toilet/snack stops), lots of karaoke, crisps, coca cola, insect snacks (comprising crickets, cockroaches, beetles and SPIDERS - no I didn't eat them) and moving about to adjust fans and aircon. Everyone was so excited. Lots of them had never been before.

It was a fantastic trip, one of the services stops was here. Utterly beautiful.

We visited three temples, Angor Wat, Ta Prom (which is famous for Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider) and a third temple which I think was called Bayon....sure someone will correct me.

Shoes

Before we left Phnom Penh, the director of Harpswell, Alan, asked me to make sure that all the girls had sturdy shoes for walking and climbing around the temples.  I sent a group email to tell everyone and said to come find me if there were problems. 

23 out of the 46 students came to find me to say that they didn't have any form of walking shoe, trainers or plimsoles. One of the girl's only pair of shoes were the plastic flip flops she was wearing.  It totally floored me.  I subsequently spent the majority of Friday at the market with a small group of the students (and a long list of shoe sizes) and spent $206 on 23 pairs of trainers and socks.  Works out at $8.90 per student.  

When we got back, we dished out the new shoes to those that needed them. They were ever so grateful.  You could really see it in the faces and by what they said in thanks. Two of the girls were overwhelmed.  I completely lost it at that point and shooed them out of my room and sobbed.



Highlights of the last week include:

1  A misunderstanding about "fish cheese" (a Cambodian delicacy which they all eat).  It is not cheese. It is dried, salted fish which is yummy but definitely not cheese and more like salted anchovies.

2  Boyfriend/girlfriend "play play" means pretend boyfriend and girlfriend.  Alternative example being "I really like eating insects play play".

3   Numkong are wonderful doughnuts with palm sugar melted over the top with sesame seeds. Served at the markets in the morning (from 5am).

4  "Free Steam" - a term used a lot at the temples and means feeling very hot. So hot that you might be mistaken for being in a sauna. But you are outside. Which is free.

5  Fixing the electricity switchboard when my adaptor flew out of the plug socket.

6  Leaving the window open when it rains (we are in monsoon season so it soaked the mattress). Well done Rach.

7  Riding SIDESADDLE on the back of a moto while holding two bags, a coffee (they have a very cool place called Browns) and a large bunch of flowers for the dormitory. I am amazing.


Thank you

To all those who gave so generously to the fundraising pot.  In addition to the new trainers and socks, we have been able to help the girls and Harpswell with the following:

1  A much needed film projector and tablet.  

Varony (Senior Manager at The Harpswell Foundation) is responsible for traveling to and interviewing approximately 200 applicants from provinces all across Cambodia to fill 19 places next year. As well as trying to identify the brightest students, she has to ensure that the students are ready and capable of living and thriving at one of the two Harpswell dormitories.  There are between 34 and 46 girls in each dorm and they live in close quarters with each other.  Whilst luxurious by Cambodian standards, a lot of them are still very far from home and do not have family nearby or much financial support to help them integrate into their new environment in Phnom Penh. 

Varony also has to communicate to the families of the girls that this is a real and legitimate opportunity for them.  There are numerous horror stories of intelligent girls being convinced to leave home and move to Phnom Penh for the promise of education and a job, only to find that they are sold into a brothel or other forms of degrading treatment. 

The tablet enables Varony to show the families and the potential students a video about The Harpswell Foundation and their incredible work.

2  Two shiny new fridges in the TT Dorm which the girls are all using and really appreciate.  They love milk! 

3  A large number of educational books.

Whilst there is a small library, the girl are studying serious topics at university including  economics, pharmacology, agriculture, chemistry, midwifery, Khmer literature, mathematics, media management, food technology and chemical engineering, engineering, architecture and banking and finance.   The universities are not well resourced and the internet will only tell you so much. I put up a notice asking if they needed any books for pleasure or work and within a few days had a full list of 21 books, all of which related directly to their studies. They couldn't believe we were willing to get them the resources they needed and we're so pleased.  

4  Plae Pakaa - Cambodian Living Arts

We are also taking all 80 girls to their choice of theatre production at The National Museum as part of their Cambodian cultural education.  It is all very well having incredibly bright students but they need to understand about their culture.  I negotiated a price of $260 for all 80 students and 4 staff to attend the performance (it is usually $10 for tourists).

5 Epic in 3D

More just about having some fun.  Vast majority do not have any money to do activities outside of the dormitory which can be tough when you work eat and sleep there all day and night every day of the week.  Again some of them explained that they had never even been to the cinema, let alone one in 3D!!! Epic was a wonderful story of adventure.  Well done Disney.

As you can imagine, I receive numerous emails, texts and facebook messages telling me how grateful they all are for our generosity and support.

Work 

Just to give you an idea.  In addition to the job skills unit (including CV cover letters, interviews and ethics in the workplace) and leading Cambodia Daily discussions, I have helped:

Nat and Soriya with English reading (thank you BBC News website) and preparing for job interviews and applications

Sreypov reviewing her Cambodia Life Blog

Sodalin with English listening (Jane Austen Persuasion)..I had to stop after an hour so she could finish her exam prep but she didn't want to stop!

Vatey with her application to become an eco-leader as part of a short internship in Malaysia with an NGO

Vechou with English grammar exercises downloaded from IELTS/TOEFL

I had to hold this little puppy dog at Angkor Wat.  The soft fuzzy ball far outweighed any risk of rabies.

Tomorrow...

...is a big day.  I am meeting the US ambassador at 9.30am,  He is visiting the TT Dormitory and intends to speak to some of the students about their lives before Harpswell and what they intend to afterwards.  

Salin (chemistry undergraduate at Royal University of Phnom Penh) has booked me in for a session from 730am to 8am to go through the short speech which she plans to give to the ambassador.  

I am helping Lina (food tech and chemical engineering) between 8am and 9am with her online visa application for post graduate study in the USA next year.  

After the ambassador's visit I will be helping the students prepare 6 short videos in response to questions posed by students at Missouri University about the Harpswell daily life and experience of studying in a  developing country.  It is part of a programme called The Cambodia Connection which aims to educate students about (and for them to share) their very different expectations and experiences of life and education. 

From 8.45pm to 9.45pm I will be running a Cambodia Daily Newspaper discussion group. Last week's topics included the Phnom Penh land grabbing and associated protests (occurring in three central zones within Phnom Penh) and the reasons for Japan's recent financial support of Burma.  The girls get points for contributing towards the discussion and debate...so I basically "encourage" (i.e. make) them all say something and then back up their reason for saying something.  Two of the girls have, independently of each other, said how much they enjoy the way I run this class and that it pushes people to think about why they might ay something or have a point of view.

Have a really good week everyone.  Next update in a few days.